Be sure to pay close attention to the movements of your mind at these times. Did it come and go, as you say, or did it come then you chased after it to keep it? (I am not saying it happened that way at all, by the way.)

It may or may not unfold for you. It isn’t a matter of going “deep enough,” as this elusive thing is everywhere at all times. It may be a matter of letting it all be as it is. But only you can know for sure.

Once it ends, if it does, you’ll see how simple it all is.

well, wouldn’t you know it, I had the glimpse the other day, again, a couple days after I posted my comment on this site. But of course, unlike it was for you, the stateless state came and went. I don’t know if it is because I don’t go deep enough or if this is a natural process that will unfold incremently. I’m not too worried, but at the same time, I(the mind) just wants it to be over and done with. It’s kind of frustrating is all I’m saying. Thanks for again for your support.

Keep dropping in and let us know how it all unfolds for you.

I have some experience with this, too. Maybe I will send you a private message, to share a few things you might enjoy. Until then….

Thanks for the complements! I appreciate it, along with your participation. It is always nice to see you lurking about. (Not to make it sound all stalker-ish.)

I understand what you mean when you say the mind is not happy. But where does that unhappiness, or unsettling feeling come from? Let’s see if anything is there…

Could the unsettling feeling come from the idea of what one thinks the future might be?

The future, in this case, refers to what one believes will happen after liberation. One reads about it, or meets a guru, or sees a video and then the idea of what it must be like surfaces.

One popular idea, as I am sure you know, is that enlightenment is the answer to everything. It is the highest goal and finally, when one breaks through that final wall of the self, they will have everything they have always wanted.

And it is so heartily pursued. But what is it that they want? Do they really want it, or are they just pursuing their idea of what will happen when they get there? Wouldn’t you say this is just more stories of what might be?

A projection of the future is made; what will happen in liberation; but in liberation, is there a future at all?

Then there is the other side; the nihilistic view. “Nothing is there so it must be miserable,” etc. But again, how can one be sure if they are not themselves there?

Of course, one might make up a story about liberation and actually be right. But in liberation, who is going to come to that conclusion? Certainly not me.

It is easy to answer these questions through knowledge, but that is never enough. And it certainly is never enough for the person answering the question, because they won’t be satisfied with the answer.

The idea of what happens when liberated is only an idea. At best (and worst), the self can only guess at what happens, but it will never really know. And if one does find out, they will never know it because there will be no one to know anything.

The mind might say, being is boring, but it can only come to that conclusion through a story.

I say conclusions are boring! Ha.

But I love making up stories, and I write them whenever I have the chance. But I suppose that it has little to do with me.

I look forward to anything you have to say, or any insight you might have into the whole thing. It is all very interesting over here.

You write beautifully, Takuin. I really enjoy your blog…. Tom