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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/an-exercise-in-inquiry/comment-page-1/#comment-4488</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iamasimpelman,

Thanks so much for your participation. I am glad to have you here.  

It is the most simple thing one may encounter. It is devoid of everything, and at the same time, lacks nothing. But this kind of language seems circuitous to the wanting mind; the &lt;em&gt;must-have-it-now&lt;/em&gt; mind. 

Just sit. The end is not far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamasimpelman,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your participation. I am glad to have you here.  </p>
<p>It is the most simple thing one may encounter. It is devoid of everything, and at the same time, lacks nothing. But this kind of language seems circuitous to the wanting mind; the <em>must-have-it-now</em> mind. </p>
<p>Just sit. The end is not far off.</p>
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		<title>By: iamasimpelman</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/an-exercise-in-inquiry/comment-page-1/#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>iamasimpelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallo. For me my answers, where light and without words. Only a feeling of being myself. Thoughts slipped, words slipped I only was  and still sitting infront of my computer. Maybe I am still impressed by the video first part I saw from Bruce Lee the Interview you linked. I saw this moves at the end of the interview let them be the answers to your three questions.
Best regards.
iamasimpelman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo. For me my answers, where light and without words. Only a feeling of being myself. Thoughts slipped, words slipped I only was  and still sitting infront of my computer. Maybe I am still impressed by the video first part I saw from Bruce Lee the Interview you linked. I saw this moves at the end of the interview let them be the answers to your three questions.<br />
Best regards.<br />
iamasimpelman</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidya,

It certainly is not &lt;em&gt;easy&lt;/em&gt; to see.  But it is &lt;em&gt;simple&lt;/em&gt;, if you know what I mean. Not difficult in the sense of effort, but the traps are subtle (and possibly sinister). 

The &quot;viewpoint&quot; may be the most subtle piece of the puzzle. It may still be expressed as, &quot;Yes, &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; see it,&quot; where there is still this intimate involvement in doing. It is something being done by the person wanting the result. 

If there is a prescription for any of this, I&#039;d start with curiosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidya,</p>
<p>It certainly is not <em>easy</em> to see.  But it is <em>simple</em>, if you know what I mean. Not difficult in the sense of effort, but the traps are subtle (and possibly sinister). </p>
<p>The &#8220;viewpoint&#8221; may be the most subtle piece of the puzzle. It may still be expressed as, &#8220;Yes, <em>I</em> see it,&#8221; where there is still this intimate involvement in doing. It is something being done by the person wanting the result. </p>
<p>If there is a prescription for any of this, I&#8217;d start with curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takuin - yes i know what you mean. From whence the response arises. How this shifts as the observers apparent position shifts. It is hard to convey as the mind so likes an &#039;answer&#039;, and not just the mind of a person but deeper, the mind of the persons, what we might call the collective. Mind focuses on content, missing what is the container and how the container moves.  

I see this but some shards of person remain. Bits that arise here and there and are seen. The process continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takuin &#8211; yes i know what you mean. From whence the response arises. How this shifts as the observers apparent position shifts. It is hard to convey as the mind so likes an &#8216;answer&#8217;, and not just the mind of a person but deeper, the mind of the persons, what we might call the collective. Mind focuses on content, missing what is the container and how the container moves.  </p>
<p>I see this but some shards of person remain. Bits that arise here and there and are seen. The process continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/an-exercise-in-inquiry/comment-page-1/#comment-3817</link>
		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is wonderful, Sass. I&#039;ll just touch a bit on your points.

1. Maybe I should have picked a better phrase than &quot;thrown up,&quot; haha. But it is very apt, isn&#039;t it? Thought is, in its own way, a physical reaction. There really is nothing so very mystical about it.

There may be a danger there. I have seen others say the same thing (or write the same thing). and there is always that feeling of holding down the process, as if thought is a second-class citizen (I am not saying you have done any of this). There may be a realization, thought is seen as it is for just a moment, then it is put down; &quot;&lt;em&gt;Look at you, thought. I know your game, and see your stupidity. You are far too simple for a creature such as I&lt;/em&gt;,&quot; and so on.

But we must remember to be kind to thought. It is an indispensable element of the whole thing.

2. Yes, that does seem to be the case. 

3. Isn&#039;t it interesting that many people resist the normal functions of the body? Especially during the summer months. One may sweat profusely, wishing all the time for relief. In the summer, we wish for the cold; in the winter, we wish for the heat. Never once can we sit with what is happening at any given time. 

The deepest lessons are hidden within our apparent discomfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is wonderful, Sass. I&#8217;ll just touch a bit on your points.</p>
<p>1. Maybe I should have picked a better phrase than &#8220;thrown up,&#8221; haha. But it is very apt, isn&#8217;t it? Thought is, in its own way, a physical reaction. There really is nothing so very mystical about it.</p>
<p>There may be a danger there. I have seen others say the same thing (or write the same thing). and there is always that feeling of holding down the process, as if thought is a second-class citizen (I am not saying you have done any of this). There may be a realization, thought is seen as it is for just a moment, then it is put down; &#8220;<em>Look at you, thought. I know your game, and see your stupidity. You are far too simple for a creature such as I</em>,&#8221; and so on.</p>
<p>But we must remember to be kind to thought. It is an indispensable element of the whole thing.</p>
<p>2. Yes, that does seem to be the case. </p>
<p>3. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that many people resist the normal functions of the body? Especially during the summer months. One may sweat profusely, wishing all the time for relief. In the summer, we wish for the cold; in the winter, we wish for the heat. Never once can we sit with what is happening at any given time. </p>
<p>The deepest lessons are hidden within our apparent discomfort.</p>
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		<title>By: sass</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a question in front of you, and as a reaction, the answer is thrown up. The answer that comes is not important; that is for the seeker to slave over. The reaction, the functioning of the mind, is what one must see. The truth of how this creature is functioning.&quot;

just some reflections...

1.  that&#039;s it.  the answer is &quot;thrown up&quot;....mechanically: 
a question and then an answer. a mechanical force of 
habit, perhaps? hehehehe. :-)

i understand that whether the answer is right or wrong is, 
indeed, not significant at all.  whether i believe them to 
be true or not are also insignificant. they are there...
there as bubbles: one moment they are floating, 
the next moment they pop out.  one may choose to chase 
the bubbles for entertainment purposes. but it can be a tiring 
endeavor, albeit an exciting one.  

2. in this mechanical exchange, the answers arising are,  if  
i may use your word, &quot;reactions&quot; rather than the &quot;answers that end 
the questions&quot; to the question. and if i may use a metaphor, 
the answers arising are like my  &quot;ouch&quot; when someone stepped on me.

3.  and yes  &quot;it is not a person searching for the answer; it is 
the truth of the organism as it is functioning from moment 
to moment.&quot; 

i want to say &quot;i agree&quot; but i find this metaphor to be a 
more resounding yes: &quot;when it&#039;s hot, the body sweats and 
then cools itself. and suddenly, one feels the nuances of  
temperature. &quot; (this i know for sure, and it allowed me to 
significantly lower my electric bill... :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a question in front of you, and as a reaction, the answer is thrown up. The answer that comes is not important; that is for the seeker to slave over. The reaction, the functioning of the mind, is what one must see. The truth of how this creature is functioning.&#8221;</p>
<p>just some reflections&#8230;</p>
<p>1.  that&#8217;s it.  the answer is &#8220;thrown up&#8221;&#8230;.mechanically:<br />
a question and then an answer. a mechanical force of<br />
habit, perhaps? hehehehe. <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i understand that whether the answer is right or wrong is,<br />
indeed, not significant at all.  whether i believe them to<br />
be true or not are also insignificant. they are there&#8230;<br />
there as bubbles: one moment they are floating,<br />
the next moment they pop out.  one may choose to chase<br />
the bubbles for entertainment purposes. but it can be a tiring<br />
endeavor, albeit an exciting one.  </p>
<p>2. in this mechanical exchange, the answers arising are,  if<br />
i may use your word, &#8220;reactions&#8221; rather than the &#8220;answers that end<br />
the questions&#8221; to the question. and if i may use a metaphor,<br />
the answers arising are like my  &#8220;ouch&#8221; when someone stepped on me.</p>
<p>3.  and yes  &#8220;it is not a person searching for the answer; it is<br />
the truth of the organism as it is functioning from moment<br />
to moment.&#8221; </p>
<p>i want to say &#8220;i agree&#8221; but i find this metaphor to be a<br />
more resounding yes: &#8220;when it&#8217;s hot, the body sweats and<br />
then cools itself. and suddenly, one feels the nuances of<br />
temperature. &#8221; (this i know for sure, and it allowed me to<br />
significantly lower my electric bill&#8230; <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidya,

That is great! I enjoy hearing about how these things unfold in others.

I always enjoy hearing your answers, but I am more interested in the Q &amp; A process itself; how it arises, how it functions. 

For this particular &quot;exercise,&quot; it is the seeing of how the process unfolds that is important, and not so much the person giving the answer. 

It may be a seeing of how one supplies the answer, without being attached to that answer. There is no intimate involvement, or maybe it is better to say, no one hoping to be right. 

The question is asked, the mind goes where it goes, and it is all seen as it is. Now, the answer may come up, but when this happens, there is no one that takes it and runs. There is no one that needs the answer, for any reason. It may very well be right and correct and all of that, but it is not important. 

I am not saying this is right, and anyone should believe it and run with it. Please, run away! Don&#039;t take it with you! 

One must be quiet. I think you see that very clearly, Davidya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidya,</p>
<p>That is great! I enjoy hearing about how these things unfold in others.</p>
<p>I always enjoy hearing your answers, but I am more interested in the Q &#038; A process itself; how it arises, how it functions. </p>
<p>For this particular &#8220;exercise,&#8221; it is the seeing of how the process unfolds that is important, and not so much the person giving the answer. </p>
<p>It may be a seeing of how one supplies the answer, without being attached to that answer. There is no intimate involvement, or maybe it is better to say, no one hoping to be right. </p>
<p>The question is asked, the mind goes where it goes, and it is all seen as it is. Now, the answer may come up, but when this happens, there is no one that takes it and runs. There is no one that needs the answer, for any reason. It may very well be right and correct and all of that, but it is not important. </p>
<p>I am not saying this is right, and anyone should believe it and run with it. Please, run away! Don&#8217;t take it with you! </p>
<p>One must be quiet. I think you see that very clearly, Davidya.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uzma,

Your inquiry is very nice. I like the questions you raise. 

I see you have approached this as someone answering a question. That is fine; nothing wrong with that. But i am more interested in the functioning of your mind; the &lt;em&gt;pure functioning&lt;/em&gt;. 

So, a question is raised, and knowledge comes up, doing what it likes to do. But it is still the viewpoint of the person seeking an answer. What I am looking for is the mind quiet enough to see beyond that limited process. 

Instead of, &quot;&lt;em&gt;There is a question, and I am going to answer&lt;/em&gt;,&quot; it is a seeing of the entire mechanism. When the question is asked, thought may or may not rise to the stimulus. But you don&#039;t have to be intimately involved.

It is possible to see this movement for exactly what it is. That is the overriding interest for this exercise. It has nothing to do with any answer you may hold. It has more to do with the mind moving in such a way to bring about that answer. 

One must be quiet to see this. If you are still, you can hear your heartbeat; &lt;em&gt;feel&lt;/em&gt; it. It is the same within the mind. When you are still, these movements are no longer apparent, but exact. It is so lovely.

Not exactly a dissection, but there you have it. Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uzma,</p>
<p>Your inquiry is very nice. I like the questions you raise. </p>
<p>I see you have approached this as someone answering a question. That is fine; nothing wrong with that. But i am more interested in the functioning of your mind; the <em>pure functioning</em>. </p>
<p>So, a question is raised, and knowledge comes up, doing what it likes to do. But it is still the viewpoint of the person seeking an answer. What I am looking for is the mind quiet enough to see beyond that limited process. </p>
<p>Instead of, &#8220;<em>There is a question, and I am going to answer</em>,&#8221; it is a seeing of the entire mechanism. When the question is asked, thought may or may not rise to the stimulus. But you don&#8217;t have to be intimately involved.</p>
<p>It is possible to see this movement for exactly what it is. That is the overriding interest for this exercise. It has nothing to do with any answer you may hold. It has more to do with the mind moving in such a way to bring about that answer. </p>
<p>One must be quiet to see this. If you are still, you can hear your heartbeat; <em>feel</em> it. It is the same within the mind. When you are still, these movements are no longer apparent, but exact. It is so lovely.</p>
<p>Not exactly a dissection, but there you have it. Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great, Sass. You see this in a wonderful way.

And remember, it is not a person searching for the answer; it is the truth of the organism as it is functioning from moment to moment. The answer to the question is absolutely insignificant. The point of this exercise is not to find the answer, or to see what is right or wrong, but to see who or what it is that answers. 

There is a question in front of you, and as a reaction, the answer is thrown up. The answer that comes is not important; that is for the seeker to slave over. The reaction, the functioning of the mind, is what one must see. The truth of how this creature is functioning. 

So when I say to &lt;em&gt;see how the answer arises&lt;/em&gt;, or whatever it is I have said, I am not looking for what you believe to be true. I am looking for a break in the illusion. 

Does that make sense to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great, Sass. You see this in a wonderful way.</p>
<p>And remember, it is not a person searching for the answer; it is the truth of the organism as it is functioning from moment to moment. The answer to the question is absolutely insignificant. The point of this exercise is not to find the answer, or to see what is right or wrong, but to see who or what it is that answers. </p>
<p>There is a question in front of you, and as a reaction, the answer is thrown up. The answer that comes is not important; that is for the seeker to slave over. The reaction, the functioning of the mind, is what one must see. The truth of how this creature is functioning. </p>
<p>So when I say to <em>see how the answer arises</em>, or whatever it is I have said, I am not looking for what you believe to be true. I am looking for a break in the illusion. </p>
<p>Does that make sense to you?</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey All,

This has turned in a way I had not expected, which is wonderful.

It may be an active expectancy on the part of the questioner, as these answers seem to reflect an &quot;asker&quot; placing itself in a position to receive an answer. But that is not at all the point of this particular &quot;exercise&quot;. I will go into this further tomorrow.

I am still working on some matters of this new blog design. But I will go into these wonderful comments at some point tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey All,</p>
<p>This has turned in a way I had not expected, which is wonderful.</p>
<p>It may be an active expectancy on the part of the questioner, as these answers seem to reflect an &#8220;asker&#8221; placing itself in a position to receive an answer. But that is not at all the point of this particular &#8220;exercise&#8221;. I will go into this further tomorrow.</p>
<p>I am still working on some matters of this new blog design. But I will go into these wonderful comments at some point tomorrow.</p>
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