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		<title>By: iamasimpelman</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6684</link>
		<dc:creator>iamasimpelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but this side if you look up the comments has alot to do with vanity. this is what i wanted to say at first side with my comment saying &quot;there is vanity all over the place&quot;
we all have to live with our me and I all the time if we  deny it we get schizophrenic.
greetings
iamasimpelman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but this side if you look up the comments has alot to do with vanity. this is what i wanted to say at first side with my comment saying &#8220;there is vanity all over the place&#8221;<br />
we all have to live with our me and I all the time if we  deny it we get schizophrenic.<br />
greetings<br />
iamasimpelman</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6683</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iamasimpelman,

I think I understand what you are saying, although I would probably use different words to describe it. 

Whether you are vain or not has nothing to do with me. It would be insane for me to say that you are vain, as that can only arise from what I believe to be true. And I have absolutely no reason to believe anything negative about you, or to believe anything about you at all.

I don&#039;t think you are vain, but that doesn&#039;t really matter anyway. I can sit here and exchange with you, but that says nothing to me. If I believe you are vain, that will only get in the way of sitting with you at the moment we are sitting here. 

I would much rather sit with you, whole and complete, and let things arise as they will. Takuin does not need Takuin at all, in order to have a relationship with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamasimpelman,</p>
<p>I think I understand what you are saying, although I would probably use different words to describe it. </p>
<p>Whether you are vain or not has nothing to do with me. It would be insane for me to say that you are vain, as that can only arise from what I believe to be true. And I have absolutely no reason to believe anything negative about you, or to believe anything about you at all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you are vain, but that doesn&#8217;t really matter anyway. I can sit here and exchange with you, but that says nothing to me. If I believe you are vain, that will only get in the way of sitting with you at the moment we are sitting here. </p>
<p>I would much rather sit with you, whole and complete, and let things arise as they will. Takuin does not need Takuin at all, in order to have a relationship with you.</p>
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		<title>By: iamasimpelman</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6682</link>
		<dc:creator>iamasimpelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me mister vain. You only can see what is, if you have experienced it, experiencing is possible in many and sometimes unknown ways. Your vanity is mine. we are one, I mean it.
Thank you 
takuin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me mister vain. You only can see what is, if you have experienced it, experiencing is possible in many and sometimes unknown ways. Your vanity is mine. we are one, I mean it.<br />
Thank you<br />
takuin</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6681</link>
		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iamasimpelman,

This is superb. It is wonderful when one can truly see these things in oneself. If you can follow that vanity, not seeking to change or overcome, there is a real chance of truly seeing what is there.

There are no guarantees in life, of course. But seeing what we are, how we truly behave, and sitting with no condemnation, or no lust toward changing may be enough to thrust you beyond the veil, so to speak. 

Please continue your pursuit, and let us all know how it progresses for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamasimpelman,</p>
<p>This is superb. It is wonderful when one can truly see these things in oneself. If you can follow that vanity, not seeking to change or overcome, there is a real chance of truly seeing what is there.</p>
<p>There are no guarantees in life, of course. But seeing what we are, how we truly behave, and sitting with no condemnation, or no lust toward changing may be enough to thrust you beyond the veil, so to speak. </p>
<p>Please continue your pursuit, and let us all know how it progresses for you.</p>
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		<title>By: iamasimpelman</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6679</link>
		<dc:creator>iamasimpelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I feel here is vanity. Vanity all over the place.
&quot;I know that I dont know.&quot;: Sokrates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I feel here is vanity. Vanity all over the place.<br />
&#8220;I know that I dont know.&#8221;: Sokrates</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6675</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose this reflects the idea of &#039;paths&#039; - the path of the intellect, the heart, the body, etc. Some people are more kinesthetic, some live through their feelings, some through their mind. And a variety of blends. Thus people describe similar things in various ways, depending on how they relate to the experience and to life itself. 

If writing about it causes separation, write about it more. (laughs) Dive into it. Full Oneness is both silence and expression and it is only through both that you integrate them. There is nothing to loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose this reflects the idea of &#8216;paths&#8217; &#8211; the path of the intellect, the heart, the body, etc. Some people are more kinesthetic, some live through their feelings, some through their mind. And a variety of blends. Thus people describe similar things in various ways, depending on how they relate to the experience and to life itself. </p>
<p>If writing about it causes separation, write about it more. (laughs) Dive into it. Full Oneness is both silence and expression and it is only through both that you integrate them. There is nothing to loose.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6662</link>
		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imno,

Thanks for your explanation. I now have a better understanding of what you meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imno,</p>
<p>Thanks for your explanation. I now have a better understanding of what you meant.</p>
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		<title>By: lmno</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidya,
Yes, very interesting. How emotions are experienced in different individuals adds many facets to the question of  &#039;how do you feel&#039;. 

Feelings arise. They can be touched or not touched by the mind. They can be projected or not projected on to another. 

I acknowledge the difference between being compassion and doing compassion. Why is what one person feels is compassionate necessarily compassionate to another?

Ah, now you add a different topic to the conversation--intuition. For me only part of intuition is via body awareness (ha ha, also known as mindfulness) or body psychometry.

And in all of this , I know that it is all me as mySelf and my self as one. My, my, my! Writing about expression of oneness causes separation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidya,<br />
Yes, very interesting. How emotions are experienced in different individuals adds many facets to the question of  &#8216;how do you feel&#8217;. </p>
<p>Feelings arise. They can be touched or not touched by the mind. They can be projected or not projected on to another. </p>
<p>I acknowledge the difference between being compassion and doing compassion. Why is what one person feels is compassionate necessarily compassionate to another?</p>
<p>Ah, now you add a different topic to the conversation&#8211;intuition. For me only part of intuition is via body awareness (ha ha, also known as mindfulness) or body psychometry.</p>
<p>And in all of this , I know that it is all me as mySelf and my self as one. My, my, my! Writing about expression of oneness causes separation.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/belief-rises/comment-page-1/#comment-6656</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imno
Your comment about How do you feel?, etc. illustrated another facet of something for me. 

Recently a course I took included a full Myers Briggs test. It suggested I was highly intuitive but processed and expressed via mind. The challenge was to develop and integrate this dichotomy. Another aspect is that I&#039;m often seen as intellectual although I don&#039;t see myself that way. Its not how I experience the world, just how I express. (laughs) 

It can be useful to understand the mechanics of this vehicle. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imno<br />
Your comment about How do you feel?, etc. illustrated another facet of something for me. </p>
<p>Recently a course I took included a full Myers Briggs test. It suggested I was highly intuitive but processed and expressed via mind. The challenge was to develop and integrate this dichotomy. Another aspect is that I&#8217;m often seen as intellectual although I don&#8217;t see myself that way. Its not how I experience the world, just how I express. (laughs) </p>
<p>It can be useful to understand the mechanics of this vehicle. <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I tend to see emotions as the reactive, surface values closely associated with body mind. Feelings as arising in awareness, independent of body-mind but appreciated by same. Feelings tend to be strongest at the heart but not bound by anything. Happiness without reason, flowing love, and so forth. 
For me, less and less of the first and more and more of the second. 

Recently, a teacher commented that compassion can be a barrier to awakening if we hold them as other. This emphasizes the importance of unconditional and allowing, to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I tend to see emotions as the reactive, surface values closely associated with body mind. Feelings as arising in awareness, independent of body-mind but appreciated by same. Feelings tend to be strongest at the heart but not bound by anything. Happiness without reason, flowing love, and so forth.<br />
For me, less and less of the first and more and more of the second. </p>
<p>Recently, a teacher commented that compassion can be a barrier to awakening if we hold them as other. This emphasizes the importance of unconditional and allowing, to be.</p>
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