If one has seen this movement, and one is really there in that moment, even naming such things as “beliefs” and “concepts” seems rather silly. But since we are here, trying to come together, we’ll have to do the best we can.

If there is a believer, there must be belief. And that believer may go to a guru and ask, “How can I see beyond all of this?” But what will they do with the answer? If they find it, will they walk away, never to return? Or will they chase after what they find, in order to keep it forever as a new system of belief?

Of course, none of this is good or bad, and to deny that this happens is just madness. But let’s assume the believer is going to go for it. What will she do, and why does she do it?

The believer full of statements, and empty of curiosity.

But when we transcend mind, we discover another reality. One much deeper and larger. Instead of noise, it is one of peace. Instead of anxiety, it is one of happiness. Instead of limitation, it is freedom. Instead of being alone, we are everything. As you will note here, many say it is difficult to describe. This is because we need to use words and words are inherently mind, we are using mind to describe what is beyond mind. This is why words of belief overlap words of being.

Religion typically arises after some person has a profound experience of higher realities and a group forms around them. Those that have not had the experience must simply ‘have faith’ or believe. But eventually, it becomes a system of belief rather than a record of possibility.

Kris speaks to the process as it unfolds. Some experiences may augment or discredit various beliefs. Eventually, the beliefs arise out of habit and become less and less meaningful.

Did I describe what I believe? No. I describe what I am. Not strong belief but simply what is. Because we must use the same words to describe belief and reality it can seem the same thing. For mind, belief and reality are essentially synonymous. But this goes beyond that and you will see it has nothing to do with belief. Indeed, our beliefs can be a barrier to it. When it dawns within, our beliefs are seen as shallow and false, ghosts of the mind. This is why it is described as waking up.

But I cannot convince you of this like this – this is all just mind. The only way to know it is through experience, then being. What is is nothing you can find in the mind, in belief or in concepts.

If the experience comes and goes a bit, there may be some tendency to hold the experience or memory. Then it has a quality of belief. But eventually, the experience dominates all else. The sense of being is stronger than any of the dramas of mind and emotions. Soon we discover we are that. Then that that’s all there is.

This takes place beyond mind or any ideas or expectations so has nothing to do with belief. But can be very difficult to describe.