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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will all sort itself without you. It may not be an easy expression for anyone, but like a flower, it grows and matures then dies,  making way for next year&#039;s model. ;)

Good luck with the fasting, and feel free to drop in and let us know how it goes for you.</description>
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<p>Good luck with the fasting, and feel free to drop in and let us know how it goes for you.</p>
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		<title>By: max7</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi takuin
Thanks for your comments
I&#039;m not sure how long I will go. The ultimate goal would be the classic 40 days, but I am happy with anything in between, and I will try to listen to my body and decide accordingly. It&#039;s been a little hard, as I live in South Korea, and I just love the food here. Days 1 and 2 were a breeze, but the last 3 not so much. Ah, and I&#039;ve got the dragon breath too :)
Regarding your question, I&#039;m not sure I really know how to explain.
Perhaps my soul seems to be brain-aware, and very often I go into a &quot;passive feeling mode&quot;, which is most of the time I&#039;m alone and not interacting with others.
Like I said before, being rational is a very brainy exercise, and when people ask questions for example, I really notice the &quot;switch&quot; from my internal just feeling mode,  to whatever the brain was called upon. And sometimes being rational tires me a bit, if I have been in &quot;just feeling&quot; mode for a while...
Like right now for example, I have to try and piece together an answer from something in raw form within me that I &quot;just feel&quot; or &quot;just know&quot;, and it&#039;s often not so easy. Due to this difficulty I often compromise between giving the slowest but most honest answer and the more practical answer. This is most clear in &quot;real-world&quot; conversations for example, where speed is most important... I find that some friends sometimes ask tricky questions, but taking a minute to reply would seem silly if you are in a restaurant for example.
I&#039;m lucky somehow because my work is done in &quot;blocks of time&quot;, for example I work for 6 months then go off for a while. During work time, my brain is called upon all the time, so it kinda just stays there. But when I&#039;m allowed to rest again for a few months, I can then go back to being myself. Right now I&#039;m not working, and its in times like this that I can notice my somewhat struggle with being naturally rational.
I truly believe that &quot;one can argue anything&quot; in this world, and as such, it is very easy to perhaps convince anyone of anything. Using the same analogy, I feel that rationalising is a very silly thing to do, as I can easily convince myself of anything.
The brain is a wonderful tool I think, and very well adapted for life in this planet. But maybe we have a lesson to learn from all the other animals in this planet, and try to leave at peace with the tool, and no, the tool is not you.
max7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi takuin<br />
Thanks for your comments<br />
I&#8217;m not sure how long I will go. The ultimate goal would be the classic 40 days, but I am happy with anything in between, and I will try to listen to my body and decide accordingly. It&#8217;s been a little hard, as I live in South Korea, and I just love the food here. Days 1 and 2 were a breeze, but the last 3 not so much. Ah, and I&#8217;ve got the dragon breath too <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Regarding your question, I&#8217;m not sure I really know how to explain.<br />
Perhaps my soul seems to be brain-aware, and very often I go into a &#8220;passive feeling mode&#8221;, which is most of the time I&#8217;m alone and not interacting with others.<br />
Like I said before, being rational is a very brainy exercise, and when people ask questions for example, I really notice the &#8220;switch&#8221; from my internal just feeling mode,  to whatever the brain was called upon. And sometimes being rational tires me a bit, if I have been in &#8220;just feeling&#8221; mode for a while&#8230;<br />
Like right now for example, I have to try and piece together an answer from something in raw form within me that I &#8220;just feel&#8221; or &#8220;just know&#8221;, and it&#8217;s often not so easy. Due to this difficulty I often compromise between giving the slowest but most honest answer and the more practical answer. This is most clear in &#8220;real-world&#8221; conversations for example, where speed is most important&#8230; I find that some friends sometimes ask tricky questions, but taking a minute to reply would seem silly if you are in a restaurant for example.<br />
I&#8217;m lucky somehow because my work is done in &#8220;blocks of time&#8221;, for example I work for 6 months then go off for a while. During work time, my brain is called upon all the time, so it kinda just stays there. But when I&#8217;m allowed to rest again for a few months, I can then go back to being myself. Right now I&#8217;m not working, and its in times like this that I can notice my somewhat struggle with being naturally rational.<br />
I truly believe that &#8220;one can argue anything&#8221; in this world, and as such, it is very easy to perhaps convince anyone of anything. Using the same analogy, I feel that rationalising is a very silly thing to do, as I can easily convince myself of anything.<br />
The brain is a wonderful tool I think, and very well adapted for life in this planet. But maybe we have a lesson to learn from all the other animals in this planet, and try to leave at peace with the tool, and no, the tool is not you.<br />
max7</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/notions-of-i-am/comment-page-1/#comment-14624</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Max7, and welcome to the site.

Good luck with the fasting. I am not sure how long you will go on with it, but if you plan on an extended fast, you&#039;ll probably find things smoothing out around day 7 or so. Just be smart about it, whatever you decide to do.

And thank you for your wonderful comment. After reading it I have only one question for you:

Are &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; somehow separate from your brain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Max7, and welcome to the site.</p>
<p>Good luck with the fasting. I am not sure how long you will go on with it, but if you plan on an extended fast, you&#8217;ll probably find things smoothing out around day 7 or so. Just be smart about it, whatever you decide to do.</p>
<p>And thank you for your wonderful comment. After reading it I have only one question for you:</p>
<p>Are <b>you</b> somehow separate from your brain?</p>
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		<title>By: max7</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my first time at this website, I found it because I&#039;m on the 5th day of my first fasting, and was googling for some insight into other people&#039;s experiences.
I don&#039;t know where to start because I find being rational a very difficult exercise. The way I work best is by feeling things, which then later on get translated by my brain when I or it needs to interact with the outside world. But when I&#039;m all alone, I don&#039;t really feel the need to use my brain much. It is perhaps a strange thing indeed, and I am not entirely sure how I do it - its like I&#039;m am mastering the art of passive activeness - if that makes any sense at all.
Like for example, I don&#039;t really know (in my brain) why I am typing what I am typing right now, but it would be such a shame to let my brain taint my efforts by rationalising everything. It did start with me reading through the post, when suddenly I felt the urge to post something, with my brain not really understading why, and perhaps looking at me from a distance so to say...
This is not a perfect &quot;skill&quot;, if you call it that, but I find that I am getting better and better everyday at just skipping the brain, and the let the being that I really am (or we are) outside of this earthly experience to really just come through.
These days I tend to see the brain more as a parasite of this body. A little parasite that seeks and perhaps feeds off a need for understanding, and is not happy just being and not knowing. I feel quite truly in my heart and soul that I have joined this experience for what it is, and not to spend the experience thinking about the experience itself. When I tried to put this to people before, I came up with the analogy of getting into a rollercoaster ride, and not being able to simply enjoy the ride, and instead only thinking: &quot;Is this rollercoaster real? How does it work?&quot;
I feel that thinking is perhaps akin to sports and exercise. The brain gets a kick out of it, but it is not something that has to be part of my experience - it in fact gets in the way of me fully being / becoming what I really am.
Perhaps all those &quot;training&quot; years in school really made us addicted to the brain, and perhaps, the reason that I am writing this is to try to put it out for those that struggle with &quot;thinking&quot;, that there is a beautiful world outside the limitations imposed by the constant rationalising of the brain.
Perhaps it is very hard to let go, but it is also very sad to live one&#039;s life only through the eyes of one&#039;s brain.
I&#039;ve come to find that I just know many things, even things that my brain may not be aware of...
It is perhaps funny to realise that &quot;science&quot; most often builds on previous blocks of scientific knowledge, and by going to school, one learns how to build on those blocks if one is so inclined. However, the same is not done on the emotional side of things. Every newborn has to, perhaps, re-invent the &quot;emotional wheel&quot;, from scratch...
I&#039;ll leave it here for now, guess I&#039;ve wandered off enough...
Perhaps, like taukin said before &quot;... all we can do is talk.&quot;
Lots of love...
max7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first time at this website, I found it because I&#8217;m on the 5th day of my first fasting, and was googling for some insight into other people&#8217;s experiences.<br />
I don&#8217;t know where to start because I find being rational a very difficult exercise. The way I work best is by feeling things, which then later on get translated by my brain when I or it needs to interact with the outside world. But when I&#8217;m all alone, I don&#8217;t really feel the need to use my brain much. It is perhaps a strange thing indeed, and I am not entirely sure how I do it &#8211; its like I&#8217;m am mastering the art of passive activeness &#8211; if that makes any sense at all.<br />
Like for example, I don&#8217;t really know (in my brain) why I am typing what I am typing right now, but it would be such a shame to let my brain taint my efforts by rationalising everything. It did start with me reading through the post, when suddenly I felt the urge to post something, with my brain not really understading why, and perhaps looking at me from a distance so to say&#8230;<br />
This is not a perfect &#8220;skill&#8221;, if you call it that, but I find that I am getting better and better everyday at just skipping the brain, and the let the being that I really am (or we are) outside of this earthly experience to really just come through.<br />
These days I tend to see the brain more as a parasite of this body. A little parasite that seeks and perhaps feeds off a need for understanding, and is not happy just being and not knowing. I feel quite truly in my heart and soul that I have joined this experience for what it is, and not to spend the experience thinking about the experience itself. When I tried to put this to people before, I came up with the analogy of getting into a rollercoaster ride, and not being able to simply enjoy the ride, and instead only thinking: &#8220;Is this rollercoaster real? How does it work?&#8221;<br />
I feel that thinking is perhaps akin to sports and exercise. The brain gets a kick out of it, but it is not something that has to be part of my experience &#8211; it in fact gets in the way of me fully being / becoming what I really am.<br />
Perhaps all those &#8220;training&#8221; years in school really made us addicted to the brain, and perhaps, the reason that I am writing this is to try to put it out for those that struggle with &#8220;thinking&#8221;, that there is a beautiful world outside the limitations imposed by the constant rationalising of the brain.<br />
Perhaps it is very hard to let go, but it is also very sad to live one&#8217;s life only through the eyes of one&#8217;s brain.<br />
I&#8217;ve come to find that I just know many things, even things that my brain may not be aware of&#8230;<br />
It is perhaps funny to realise that &#8220;science&#8221; most often builds on previous blocks of scientific knowledge, and by going to school, one learns how to build on those blocks if one is so inclined. However, the same is not done on the emotional side of things. Every newborn has to, perhaps, re-invent the &#8220;emotional wheel&#8221;, from scratch&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ll leave it here for now, guess I&#8217;ve wandered off enough&#8230;<br />
Perhaps, like taukin said before &#8220;&#8230; all we can do is talk.&#8221;<br />
Lots of love&#8230;<br />
max7</p>
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		<title>By: Noble Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noble Intention &#171; In 2 Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] home&#8230;    &#171; The Problem with&#160;Problems    Noble&#160;Intention October 27, 2009   In a recent discussion over on Takuin&#8217;s blog, several people talked of not reading spiritual books for a time. Being in a place where such [...]</description>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidya,

I have not gone back to reading spiritual works. But I can see a time when I might do so. Not to learn how to live, or learn what to do, but to see how one might express this untouchable thing. But to be honest, at this time, I am just not interested. Not yet. (Maybe not ever? Who knows?)

&lt;blockquote&gt;I find it more useful to look at what I am experiencing now rather than what concepts someone has of another state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is it, right there. It is nice to hear these things from teachers or gurus. But really, it has no meaning. Not that it is a waste of time. But what can one do? Just smile and say, &quot;That is nice.&quot;

Perhaps it is just this perspective (non-perspective). A person might sit in front of me and recite my own writing, unbeknownst to me, and it still would not mean anything. 

Of course, that is not to say words might not move another person in a special way. None of this is to deny that which might move another person into their own investigation. But one must be careful not to cultivate a reliance on the words, no matter how lovely or penetrating.

I don&#039;t remember much of anything in the years between 2001 to 2006, although there was no &#039;explosion&#039; as such. (But I remember our wedding, dear! Really I do!)

I remember not liking certain jobs. Feeling pain and hate, vaguely. Feelings of wanting sex and so on. But sitting here now, I cannot be sure of any of it. It is all like a vague dream. Even the memories of yesterday are quick victims of this &#039;wasting disease.&#039;

Certainly, one is not preferable to another. It is silly to want to escape a dream.

You just go on. You live your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidya,</p>
<p>I have not gone back to reading spiritual works. But I can see a time when I might do so. Not to learn how to live, or learn what to do, but to see how one might express this untouchable thing. But to be honest, at this time, I am just not interested. Not yet. (Maybe not ever? Who knows?)</p>
<blockquote><p>I find it more useful to look at what I am experiencing now rather than what concepts someone has of another state.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is it, right there. It is nice to hear these things from teachers or gurus. But really, it has no meaning. Not that it is a waste of time. But what can one do? Just smile and say, &#8220;That is nice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps it is just this perspective (non-perspective). A person might sit in front of me and recite my own writing, unbeknownst to me, and it still would not mean anything. </p>
<p>Of course, that is not to say words might not move another person in a special way. None of this is to deny that which might move another person into their own investigation. But one must be careful not to cultivate a reliance on the words, no matter how lovely or penetrating.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember much of anything in the years between 2001 to 2006, although there was no &#8216;explosion&#8217; as such. (But I remember our wedding, dear! Really I do!)</p>
<p>I remember not liking certain jobs. Feeling pain and hate, vaguely. Feelings of wanting sex and so on. But sitting here now, I cannot be sure of any of it. It is all like a vague dream. Even the memories of yesterday are quick victims of this &#8216;wasting disease.&#8217;</p>
<p>Certainly, one is not preferable to another. It is silly to want to escape a dream.</p>
<p>You just go on. You live your life.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaushik,

One feels sympathy for those effort-ing on a fool&#039;s errand. And all we can do is talk. But these words we use may have some eventual impact on others, as certain words may have impacted us.

Perhaps it is not such a fool&#039;s errand in the end. After all, one must live their lives in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaushik,</p>
<p>One feels sympathy for those effort-ing on a fool&#8217;s errand. And all we can do is talk. But these words we use may have some eventual impact on others, as certain words may have impacted us.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is not such a fool&#8217;s errand in the end. After all, one must live their lives in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting discussion. Thanks for the link, Takuin.
I stopped reading spiritual books many years ago when I found they either were impenetrable (poor translations) or didn&#039;t cover what I was experiencing. For a long time, the focus was on the mundane. Then it all came round again and I discovered a broader outlook had matured.  I began reading again but now to see what another perspective brought to the table. One truth, many perspectives. 

I find it more useful to look at what I am experiencing now rather than what concepts someone has of another state. A global perspective is useful but the real work is in gong into your experience, not someone else&#039;s concepts. You are, after all, the experiencer. Everything else arises from that. The source may be experienced as nothingness. But it may also be experienced as fullness. Both are valid. It depends simply on how you come to it. What&#039;s the point of making everything nothing if that&#039;s not the experience? 

And even though I say experience, waking is not a shift in experience but rather a shift in being. But being arises from awareness, so attention is the key, not the content of, those concepts. This is why teachers speak of looking at what is looking. What is looking is what awakens. This is why it might be described as an &quot;accident&quot;. It happens from Self rather than the me. As one fellow put it, it is not Bob waking to Self but Self waking to Bob. What can Bob do about that?

Thanks for sharing more of your process, Takuin. There was steps after all. (laughs) But they are steps into less rather than more, if we are speaking of the me. The me of you  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting discussion. Thanks for the link, Takuin.<br />
I stopped reading spiritual books many years ago when I found they either were impenetrable (poor translations) or didn&#8217;t cover what I was experiencing. For a long time, the focus was on the mundane. Then it all came round again and I discovered a broader outlook had matured.  I began reading again but now to see what another perspective brought to the table. One truth, many perspectives. </p>
<p>I find it more useful to look at what I am experiencing now rather than what concepts someone has of another state. A global perspective is useful but the real work is in gong into your experience, not someone else&#8217;s concepts. You are, after all, the experiencer. Everything else arises from that. The source may be experienced as nothingness. But it may also be experienced as fullness. Both are valid. It depends simply on how you come to it. What&#8217;s the point of making everything nothing if that&#8217;s not the experience? </p>
<p>And even though I say experience, waking is not a shift in experience but rather a shift in being. But being arises from awareness, so attention is the key, not the content of, those concepts. This is why teachers speak of looking at what is looking. What is looking is what awakens. This is why it might be described as an &#8220;accident&#8221;. It happens from Self rather than the me. As one fellow put it, it is not Bob waking to Self but Self waking to Bob. What can Bob do about that?</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing more of your process, Takuin. There was steps after all. (laughs) But they are steps into less rather than more, if we are speaking of the me. The me of you  <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kaushik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seng-ts’an writes: “Do not seek the truth; only cease to cherish opinions.”  This resounded with me the way Krishanmurti&#039;s warning not to rely on external authority resounded with you.

And yet, to forcibly release the cherishing of beliefs or seeking is not quite it.

Spirituality is not my way but I can see how it provides a framework for many.

All this seeking and spiritualizing and practicing and accumulating is effort. Perhaps effort is necessary to see that it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seng-ts’an writes: “Do not seek the truth; only cease to cherish opinions.”  This resounded with me the way Krishanmurti&#8217;s warning not to rely on external authority resounded with you.</p>
<p>And yet, to forcibly release the cherishing of beliefs or seeking is not quite it.</p>
<p>Spirituality is not my way but I can see how it provides a framework for many.</p>
<p>All this seeking and spiritualizing and practicing and accumulating is effort. Perhaps effort is necessary to see that it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, iamasimpelman. I was unaware of that artist until you introduced me.

I like the message. It was funny, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, iamasimpelman. I was unaware of that artist until you introduced me.</p>
<p>I like the message. It was funny, too.</p>
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