Comments on: Questions on Peace and War

By: takuin

takuin — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:39:16 +0000

@Eric,

Uncover is a nice word. The implication being, what is revealed has always been there. One uncovers what is already within.

While an egoic life may or may not be an aberration, resistance to that idea will lead to nothing but suffering. Can you sit with the aberration, can you see clearly that movement?

Can you love it?

By: Eric Phinney

Eric Phinney — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:57:39 +0000

It has been my experience that peace has never been brought to me as if from an outside source. Rather, I have uncovered the peace that lies beneath the many layers of my story.
Once, many years ago, I experienced stillness. I believe that what happened was an awareness of my true self, without the thoughts, judgments, and conflicts that accompany words, was glimpsed for a short, blissful while.
Although it only “happened” once I feel that this egoic life is the aberration while that state where nothing was added is my real nature.
Peace, therefore, is always with us, never absent; only unrealized. The conflict I see without is merely the conflict I maintain within. And that is not a judgment for if it is experienced then it must have purpose. Now I am getting into the realm of opinion and that was not my intent. I only wanted to speak to my experience; fact. And yet I understand my experience is fact only for me so perhaps I should leave it there; cease my silly rambling.
Takuin, I thank you for this site. I have waited 35 or more years for discussions such as these to help me make sense of what I touched, felt and today long for. To you and Tom Stine and Davidya and others of your kind I promise to try to see the moon and not the fingers that point to it.
I almost forgot the most important thing. Of course peace is possible, it is all that truly exists!

By: Takuin Minamoto » Blog Archive » Must War Continue?

Takuin Minamoto » Blog Archive » Must War Continue? — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:08:40 +0000

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By: takuin

takuin — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:43:03 +0000

Thanks for your comment, spills.

I’ll go into this a bit in a new post.

By: spills

spills — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:04:06 +0000

War will always be a constant in our lives. Violence and peaces are just smaller peices in the stream of chaos. Chaos rules all of us and everything we percieve as reality.
The war within ourselves, I believe is nothing but the constant struggle one goes through to find who we are as a person. Once you come to terms with who you are, then you can achieve “peace”.
This can never stop war because who we are as individuals is opposite from others, thus creating conflict and adding to the chaos that rules us all.
But thats just what I think on the issue.

By: Davidya

Davidya — Sat, 31 May 2008 22:10:37 +0000

Very well put, Takuin. Full agree. Curiously, the war only is because we are unwilling to see it. When we stop and see it fully, it is done.

What I have seen is the war, the inner conflict, exists as the self tried to control what it believed but it was all founded in illusion. A self-made conflict inside a dream of its own making. A drama in essence to hide its own fear of survival. Not survival of the body, survival of the illusion, without which the self ceases.

Who needs such noise? Peace is so much better.

By: takuin

takuin — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:32:15 +0000

@ Tom:

You are right, of course. It is all about the war within, and while we all share in this war and are responsible for it, only you, only the one, can bring it to an end.

We can use other forms of inquiry to see how these things occur in ourselves, but it seems to be an inquiry all our own that brings the war to an end.

By: Tom Stine | Living from Consciousness

Tom Stine | Living from Consciousness — Sat, 31 May 2008 04:22:53 +0000

“I have heard of people coming to the end through inquiry, but I have never heard of someone coming to the end through another person’s form of inquiry.”

And that is the limitation of the Sedona Method and The Work. They are helpful (possibly essential??) aids for many in beginning the inquiry. They point the way. Same with reading Ramana or Nisargadatta. All pointers.

But it seems to me, and this is my experience, that eventually one sits with oneself, one’s own mind and self, and the inquiry must be about “what am I?” It can’t be someone else’s “I” but your own “I”.

At least that’s how it seems to me.

Glad the cake has finally settled! Happy Birthday. Namaste.