Thanks for the clarity.

This is not isolation, though. That is the domain of a person that can be isolated. There may be apparent physical isolation of some kind, but even that conclusion is not quite right. But we could go on and on.

I don’t read about this stuff, so I have to use the vocabulary I already have. One cannot rely on an authority to be right. Not even the authority of one’s own mind.

There are limits, but it didn’t take too long for us to understand one another. Just a few days. Haha.

The organism cannot be sitting in the chair without being experienced. Because the experience itself is the feedback loop of expression and the organism and chair would not exist if they had not been expressed in awareness, ergo, experienced. Nothing exists in isolation, that idea that something can be isolated from anything else is the illusion of the individual. There is an individual expression, but it is not separate from the whole. Just that aspect of the one. Everything is in relationship to everything else. For me, this is life. You have what I would describe as a different perspective of the same thing.

Yes, I appreciate you were joking but its ‘real’ nonetheless to whoever may appreciate it as such (laughs)

OK – I think I see what you are saying better now. About the image or story. Not that you struggle with it but that its not there. We use different words for this and I think come from a different way in. Very interesting.

I agree with your perspective of human mind. People seek to loose the story/image, thinking that the goal, but it is really just the very beginning. We are capable of so much higher perspective.

And I understand about the no “i” and the meaningless of that. You’ve expressed it very well. I find that the “i” does return, but later as what one fellow calls the cosmic I. What Ramana Maharishi called the True I of absolute being. This is after waking from what I call the dream of God, the final Maya. Then what was unreal becomes real again, but a very different real. Then follows the intimacy of oneness with all. Even Akiko’s computer. Then cosmic I.

I suspect the tightness is from some attempt to step back into an idea of self that is mostly forgotten. Like trying to put your head into a hat 5 sizes too small.

I find it quite intriguing to discover the many facets of the face of the one. How another expression brings out another layer. So thank you for the illumination and illustration.

be do be do be…

By the way, please don’t take that as an indication that I am not interested in interacting. I didn’t intend for it to come out that way. There is just no real interest in talking about “myself.” But please go into what ever you feel like. I am happy to be involved.

Do Be Do Be Do…isn’t that Strangers in the Night?

Apologies if it seems I’m dissecting you publicly (laughs).

No problem. I’ll go through your points one at a time and give the shortest answer possible. You hit upon the truth of the matter, although I’m not sure you meant to.

Without intention, there is nothing to experience.

If there is no one experiencing, there is no experience. Of course, this requires far more than an intellectual understanding of the words. It must be the very blood that flows through one’s veins.

But if we do intend it we will. Keep in mind that the ‘we’ here refers to the us, not the individual. The individual is an illusion.

But it is the individual that intends in this way. The individual thinks it can make that difference in order to live an ideal life. It is an illusion as you say, but the idea that we will experience what we intend is also the illusion. Who will intend it, and who will experience it? This may be trouble with the language again. If Takuin sits in a chair, you might say he is experiencing sitting in the chair. But what if that organism sits in the chair and no one is there to experience it? It may be true that someone or something is sitting there, but there is no one to experience anything.

Experience is the recording of events as it effects the individual. But what if there is no one to experience it? Do you see what I mean? I am not speaking theoretically; for Takuin this is life.

It can be touchy when the words have their own subtle life. But the more we eliminate, the more the point becomes clear, I suppose.

Your story is real if you perceive it to be.

Luckily, I was joking when I made that statement. Of course, any story one might make up has nothing to do with reality.

Your ‘inability’ may simply be a missing clarity on what is taking place. You are projecting your experiences (consciously or not), then trying to project onto that projection?

There is nothing missing. Not because I say so, but it happens to be so. There is no projection or reaction based on an idea. I can’t put it any clearer. If there is no image, there is no image. It is not as if, when I concentrate there is no image, or when one meditates there is no image. There is simply no imagery being created on a moment by moment basis. One might say, “That is just a story of no image,” but if there is a story of no image, that is an image. It is all so simple; so reduced, if that is the correct word.

One that lives in the image, but wants to be free, can only imagine what it means to live without it. They will never be able to meet it, because they are actively looking for it. But the idea that it is somewhere else, or it is something that needs to be sought after, is another image that they are fooling themselves with.

It is too easy, as I have said before, for people to say all of this. It isn’t an idea that one cultivates, or a state that one can create through experience, knowledge, memory, or whatever. One might ask, “How do you know?” Just look into the world. For thousands of centuries humanity has tried to free itself through all of those means. But what has happened? Nothing. Well, not nothing, because we have incredible strides in technology, and it just keeps growing and growing. But internally, in the mind, human beings are still the base creatures they were while living in the caves.

I don’t think it is overly harsh to say that humans are still using the primordial mind, if you will, in order to solve supposed problems. At one time, it may have been useful. It may have even been responsible for our survival. Or maybe it was never needed. Who knows. But it certainly is not needed now. As I have said before, it is finally time to admit the emperor has no clothes.

What gets in the way of that is the story you have about ‘how it is’, even if you think there is no story.

I have no story about what is, because there is no I that is seeing and interpreting. I guess, technically speaking, any time we are using words in any manner, we are telling a story. But that is not what we are talking about here.

Here is something you may or may not find interesting. Typing about “myself” is very surreal and kind of unsettling. Not because “I” have some idea about it, but it is kind of like lying. There is an organism sitting on a chair and typing on Akiko’s computer. Through typing, it is telling a story about someone that does not exist. It isn’t trying to convince anyone of anything, but it is telling a story of someone that is not here, as if he is actually here and real.

Uncomfortable is not the right word. It is just a tight and compressed feeling. One rarely talks about the made up person that sits here. And it probably won’t be re-visited for quite some time. It just feels like a lie. Not a lie…like a physical impossibility; like forcing my hand through a keyhole. That is as close as one can get to it.

I think that is enough for now.

Apologies if it seems I’m dissecting you publicly (laughs). Its something I do to myself all the time. Expressing the experience gives people handles to relate to, just as you do so nicely in your blog posts.

Thats a good habit not to assume. It is indeed the art of listening. Better, the art of hearing. And that is the art of knowing. If we cannot ‘hear’, what is there we can learn?

If we don’t experience it, it will wait until we do (laughs). Keep in mind that if everything exists within consciousness, it must be causal. Intention is what creates any expression, anything we might experience. Without intention, there is nothing to experience. So if we don’t intend it we won’t experience it. But if we do intend it we will. Keep in mind that the ‘we’ here refers to the us, not the individual. The individual is an illusion.

Your story is real if you perceive it to be. Perception is the feedback loop of intention, so if we perceive it, it is made real. But ‘real’ is relative. The only real that is absolute is without qualities so cannot be experienced. Thus anything we experience is a relative real. But in that moment, real.

Your ‘inability’ may simply be a missing clarity on what is taking place. You are projecting your experiences (consciously or not), then trying to project onto that projection? If you get that you are projecting it in the first place, but not the individual you but rather the deeper you, then you will begin to be able to shift what is being perceived. What gets in the way of that is the story you have about ‘how it is’, even if you think there is no story.

In essence, everything we experience is a story. A dream you might also say. This dream has several levels – an individual dream (the most illusory), a group dream, a universe dream, and the dream of God, of the one. Remember, its all intended. In other words, its all made up. As i mentioned before, its made up so that the nothing can know itself. Without intention, all we have is restful alertness, without content.

Amazing how many points your raised (laughs)