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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful
Or a desire for Self to awaken Itself. When someone awakens nearby, it is like you have awoken further. Some teachers speak of helping people awake simply to awaken themselves further as there is only One. 

It is possible for humans to meet with love, when both come from the heart, not mind. But it is not typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful<br />
Or a desire for Self to awaken Itself. When someone awakens nearby, it is like you have awoken further. Some teachers speak of helping people awake simply to awaken themselves further as there is only One. </p>
<p>It is possible for humans to meet with love, when both come from the heart, not mind. But it is not typical.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/to-the-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-7158</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidya,

Haha...that damn guru!

&lt;blockquote&gt;I would say that as the “light” comes from that which is both guru and student, it may seem to come from within or from another.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This would seem to point to something completely new. If there could be a complete relationship, between the guru and the student, it becomes something unique; a moment by moment living, or an exploration that may be greater than what one might discover alone.

There is no guru OR student as we are discussing here. If there is this complete togetherness in this investigation, it is unfolding for both and not one. It is without conclusion for both, as it is curiosity that drives the union, or perhaps a love to see what happens.

If only it were easy (or possible?) for humans to meet with love, and not with conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidya,</p>
<p>Haha&#8230;that damn guru!</p>
<blockquote><p>I would say that as the “light” comes from that which is both guru and student, it may seem to come from within or from another.</p></blockquote>
<p>This would seem to point to something completely new. If there could be a complete relationship, between the guru and the student, it becomes something unique; a moment by moment living, or an exploration that may be greater than what one might discover alone.</p>
<p>There is no guru OR student as we are discussing here. If there is this complete togetherness in this investigation, it is unfolding for both and not one. It is without conclusion for both, as it is curiosity that drives the union, or perhaps a love to see what happens.</p>
<p>If only it were easy (or possible?) for humans to meet with love, and not with conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/to-the-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-7157</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Where Does it Hurt, you commented &quot;a seeker does not go to a guru for answers. They only wish to find an authority that will validate the answers they already have.&quot;

This can be very true. But sometimes, it&#039;s that the guru seems to have the answers but we don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;.  It must be the guru&#039;s fault. ;-)

I would say that as the &quot;light&quot; comes from that which is both guru and student, it may seem to come from within or from another. 

If we think of darkness as an absence of light, sometimes darkness makes us look and thus see light. 

I&#039;ve found that hope is not the issue, it is the clinging that causes grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Where Does it Hurt, you commented &#8220;a seeker does not go to a guru for answers. They only wish to find an authority that will validate the answers they already have.&#8221;</p>
<p>This can be very true. But sometimes, it&#8217;s that the guru seems to have the answers but we don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;.  It must be the guru&#8217;s fault. <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I would say that as the &#8220;light&#8221; comes from that which is both guru and student, it may seem to come from within or from another. </p>
<p>If we think of darkness as an absence of light, sometimes darkness makes us look and thus see light. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that hope is not the issue, it is the clinging that causes grief.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/to-the-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-7155</link>
		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One might ask, if no one understands, why are there readers? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suppose it is because the reader desperately wants to understand; &quot;understand&quot; might not be the right word; they want to receive the light, or have their own darkness dispelled. But never once do they ask, &quot;Is it possible for another to dispel my darkness?&quot;

They may answer YES to the above question, but is that clinging hope just another form of darkness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One might ask, if no one understands, why are there readers? </p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose it is because the reader desperately wants to understand; &#8220;understand&#8221; might not be the right word; they want to receive the light, or have their own darkness dispelled. But never once do they ask, &#8220;Is it possible for another to dispel my darkness?&#8221;</p>
<p>They may answer YES to the above question, but is that clinging hope just another form of darkness?</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/to-the-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-7113</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(laughs)  how does one describe what another has not seen? Is this being too deep? Or is it useful to describe so they might look? One might ask, if no one understands, why are there readers? 

What method might one use to ask a person to look at their experience rather than simply being told? 

We are having some feedback...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(laughs)  how does one describe what another has not seen? Is this being too deep? Or is it useful to describe so they might look? One might ask, if no one understands, why are there readers? </p>
<p>What method might one use to ask a person to look at their experience rather than simply being told? </p>
<p>We are having some feedback&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, that is exactly how I feel about my teachers.  Tell me in terms that I understand or you are wasting both of our time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, that is exactly how I feel about my teachers.  Tell me in terms that I understand or you are wasting both of our time.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
		<link>http://www.takuin.com/to-the-guru/comment-page-1/#comment-7105</link>
		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not necessarily aimed at a specific person. (or is it?)

Fill in the blanks for yourself, if you have ever felt the same way. 

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not necessarily aimed at a specific person. (or is it?)</p>
<p>Fill in the blanks for yourself, if you have ever felt the same way. </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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