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		<title>By: Sanae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have randomly come across your blog and read through your fasting journey. You have inspired me to finally go through with a prolonged fast- something that I have been wanting to attempt! Although every body is different, I feel that after reading through your summaries I know what to generally expect- and to not give up! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have randomly come across your blog and read through your fasting journey. You have inspired me to finally go through with a prolonged fast- something that I have been wanting to attempt! Although every body is different, I feel that after reading through your summaries I know what to generally expect- and to not give up! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: AnInterestedFellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnInterestedFellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply, I wish to live as those who have come before. Waking to live, to survive. I do not wish to wake to attend to the matters of those above me, or to deal with those below me, I do not wish to be above or below.

Purchasing land, living in the utmost of harmony with it. Growing crops of our own, using solar paneling, spending time with the forest.

I wish for my impact on the world to be a positive one, and I would allow those with similar interests to join me.

Perhaps such a movement, if you can really call it that, would benefit the world somehow.

In reality, however, it would benefit myself. To live the life that one dreams of is one of the greatest successes this one can imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply, I wish to live as those who have come before. Waking to live, to survive. I do not wish to wake to attend to the matters of those above me, or to deal with those below me, I do not wish to be above or below.</p>
<p>Purchasing land, living in the utmost of harmony with it. Growing crops of our own, using solar paneling, spending time with the forest.</p>
<p>I wish for my impact on the world to be a positive one, and I would allow those with similar interests to join me.</p>
<p>Perhaps such a movement, if you can really call it that, would benefit the world somehow.</p>
<p>In reality, however, it would benefit myself. To live the life that one dreams of is one of the greatest successes this one can imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you decide to do, you should be fine. Especially with an alternate day fast (or rather three days per week). It is not as difficult as people may make it out to be. 

But pay attention to what is going on within you. You may find that three days are not necessary, or that it suits you better to do two days back to back with one day later in the week.

The only way you&#039;ll know for sure is to do it and see what happens.  Who knows? In the end you may discover, it was not necessary at all.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This one wishes to break from that which Society has become.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is easy enough to do. Just remember that society is the way it is, in part, because of what you have and have not done. So will you forcefully reject it, ridicule it, and walk away? Or can you, seeing it clearly and ending the self&#039;s association with it, step out of those old habitual patterns and live in such a way that brings peace to those still stuck? (If &lt;em&gt;peace&lt;/em&gt; is the right word here.)

Society is constantly changing, much in the way the Earth slowly turns around the Sun. It morphs and transforms continually, but the underlying problems - the root motions - still remain. So we might ask, Is it possible to live life not adding to the turmoil and distress? And is it necessary at all to  &#039;remove&#039; ourselves from it?

Not that you have or will do any of these things. But these may be important things to consider for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you decide to do, you should be fine. Especially with an alternate day fast (or rather three days per week). It is not as difficult as people may make it out to be. </p>
<p>But pay attention to what is going on within you. You may find that three days are not necessary, or that it suits you better to do two days back to back with one day later in the week.</p>
<p>The only way you&#8217;ll know for sure is to do it and see what happens.  Who knows? In the end you may discover, it was not necessary at all.</p>
<blockquote><p>This one wishes to break from that which Society has become.</p></blockquote>
<p>That is easy enough to do. Just remember that society is the way it is, in part, because of what you have and have not done. So will you forcefully reject it, ridicule it, and walk away? Or can you, seeing it clearly and ending the self&#8217;s association with it, step out of those old habitual patterns and live in such a way that brings peace to those still stuck? (If <em>peace</em> is the right word here.)</p>
<p>Society is constantly changing, much in the way the Earth slowly turns around the Sun. It morphs and transforms continually, but the underlying problems &#8211; the root motions &#8211; still remain. So we might ask, Is it possible to live life not adding to the turmoil and distress? And is it necessary at all to  &#8216;remove&#8217; ourselves from it?</p>
<p>Not that you have or will do any of these things. But these may be important things to consider for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: AnInterestedFellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnInterestedFellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading here, your journey, your works.

Somehow, I began using the right hemisphere of my brain in a dominate fashion for a few hours. I felt as if I were seeing with the utmost of clarity, through my minds eye, my third eye. I began speaking in metaphors and words I hadn&#039;t used in a long while.

You, whether you are aware of it or not, use words in their truest forms.

Most of us, if not all of us, do not speak in these ways, as we would confuse the masses; so, we dumb it down. We use lesser wordings, and our accuracy suffers.

Let your aim be true, my friend, for it defines and reveals the beauty of the mind, of the language.

If you were wondering, I seek to fast because I am one obsessed with survival in the wild, and living off the land, and my body in its current state is absurdly inefficient.

I need to know I can handle the mental portion of being without food for indefinite periods, and I may end up eating much as you do, fasting three days a week.

This one wishes to break from that which Society has become.

My words are not kind, my friend, they are truth; you need not thank me for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading here, your journey, your works.</p>
<p>Somehow, I began using the right hemisphere of my brain in a dominate fashion for a few hours. I felt as if I were seeing with the utmost of clarity, through my minds eye, my third eye. I began speaking in metaphors and words I hadn&#8217;t used in a long while.</p>
<p>You, whether you are aware of it or not, use words in their truest forms.</p>
<p>Most of us, if not all of us, do not speak in these ways, as we would confuse the masses; so, we dumb it down. We use lesser wordings, and our accuracy suffers.</p>
<p>Let your aim be true, my friend, for it defines and reveals the beauty of the mind, of the language.</p>
<p>If you were wondering, I seek to fast because I am one obsessed with survival in the wild, and living off the land, and my body in its current state is absurdly inefficient.</p>
<p>I need to know I can handle the mental portion of being without food for indefinite periods, and I may end up eating much as you do, fasting three days a week.</p>
<p>This one wishes to break from that which Society has become.</p>
<p>My words are not kind, my friend, they are truth; you need not thank me for that.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your words...

Read  what you can, but just know that regardless of what other people say will happen, you&#039;ll have to go there to find out what is real. 

I am contemplating other experiments such as this for the near future. Not fasting, but something quite different. But I still have not decided anything yet. 

Thanks again for your kind words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your words&#8230;</p>
<p>Read  what you can, but just know that regardless of what other people say will happen, you&#8217;ll have to go there to find out what is real. </p>
<p>I am contemplating other experiments such as this for the near future. Not fasting, but something quite different. But I still have not decided anything yet. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your kind words.</p>
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		<title>By: AnInterestedFellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnInterestedFellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An experiment with fasting brings to mind another experiment bodily in nature. Sleep deprivation.

It could be interesting indeed.

Your journey, for lack of a better word, has made solid my own decision to give fasting a go.

I&#039;m thinking of starting with a two day minimum and going from there, with a maximum of a week, unless I feel the utmost desire to continue.

Thank you for your words. We all have thoughts of great meaning, though few put them on paper, and even fewer for any and all to see. I thank you for being one such person, sharing that most personal side of yourself, for it is beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An experiment with fasting brings to mind another experiment bodily in nature. Sleep deprivation.</p>
<p>It could be interesting indeed.</p>
<p>Your journey, for lack of a better word, has made solid my own decision to give fasting a go.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of starting with a two day minimum and going from there, with a maximum of a week, unless I feel the utmost desire to continue.</p>
<p>Thank you for your words. We all have thoughts of great meaning, though few put them on paper, and even fewer for any and all to see. I thank you for being one such person, sharing that most personal side of yourself, for it is beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Basically, I think I mean, how do these externals like food and work, effect us and awakening and the awakened?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uzma, 

You will never know. In other words, if one looks at it from the outside - looking at someone they believe to be awakened - all they can do is imagine what is going on, what is happening, or what may have lead to that state.

They can take stock of all the external items that may seem to lead to one state or another and that is about it.

If you break through everything that &#039;you&#039; are, and get to the end-point, so to speak, you will never know what might have brought it about. And even if you could point to a specific happening, there is still no way to be sure. 

So these externals like food and work have no effect. Rather, it is your interpretation of them that keeps you down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Basically, I think I mean, how do these externals like food and work, effect us and awakening and the awakened?</p></blockquote>
<p>Uzma, </p>
<p>You will never know. In other words, if one looks at it from the outside &#8211; looking at someone they believe to be awakened &#8211; all they can do is imagine what is going on, what is happening, or what may have lead to that state.</p>
<p>They can take stock of all the external items that may seem to lead to one state or another and that is about it.</p>
<p>If you break through everything that &#8216;you&#8217; are, and get to the end-point, so to speak, you will never know what might have brought it about. And even if you could point to a specific happening, there is still no way to be sure. </p>
<p>So these externals like food and work have no effect. Rather, it is your interpretation of them that keeps you down.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Uzma
You may find kindness is easier if you avoid taking it personally. Whatever comes up is what it is. It is taking it personally that causes grief.

It&#039;s a funny thing. The person feels this need to do the right thing and avoid the wrong, lest we be damned. But Joy and Love and Oneness have nothing to do with right and wrong. One lets go of any idea of limitation, then they are found in the boundless. Only the mind wants to figure everything out. Your purpose is to be as you are now. To experience the world as you do.  Follow your heart and the externals take care of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Uzma<br />
You may find kindness is easier if you avoid taking it personally. Whatever comes up is what it is. It is taking it personally that causes grief.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a funny thing. The person feels this need to do the right thing and avoid the wrong, lest we be damned. But Joy and Love and Oneness have nothing to do with right and wrong. One lets go of any idea of limitation, then they are found in the boundless. Only the mind wants to figure everything out. Your purpose is to be as you are now. To experience the world as you do.  Follow your heart and the externals take care of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Uzma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uzma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Takuin
I see the difference. I have a memory of the Oneness in the past. 
Am sitting with &#039;this&#039; for now :-)

Just leaving it at that. 

Kindess matters, in thought, word , deed and being. Am trying very hard to be kind. Even in the face of unkindness. Just see it as what it is, and let it be. 

The interesting thing is , this eating debate, is in some way, about the paths, and actual mode of practical life, one must lead, to come to a place of Joy and Love and Oneness. 

What we eat, is an easy part to figure out. What about what we do, job, etc. 
Davidya talk about a lot of things like this in his recent posts. Limitations to overcome. 
Question to Takuin, how has awakening, effected your work(job).  Does one try to find meaning in everything, find purpose, like guru&#039;s say . 
Basically, I think I mean, how do these externals like food and work, effect us and awakening and the awakened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Takuin<br />
I see the difference. I have a memory of the Oneness in the past.<br />
Am sitting with &#8216;this&#8217; for now <img src='http://www.takuin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just leaving it at that. </p>
<p>Kindess matters, in thought, word , deed and being. Am trying very hard to be kind. Even in the face of unkindness. Just see it as what it is, and let it be. </p>
<p>The interesting thing is , this eating debate, is in some way, about the paths, and actual mode of practical life, one must lead, to come to a place of Joy and Love and Oneness. </p>
<p>What we eat, is an easy part to figure out. What about what we do, job, etc.<br />
Davidya talk about a lot of things like this in his recent posts. Limitations to overcome.<br />
Question to Takuin, how has awakening, effected your work(job).  Does one try to find meaning in everything, find purpose, like guru&#8217;s say .<br />
Basically, I think I mean, how do these externals like food and work, effect us and awakening and the awakened.</p>
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		<title>By: takuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>takuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uzma and Davidya,

Nice conversation you are having...I won&#039;t intrude.

I will add that this &#039;thing&#039; has nothing to do with what you want or what you may have had in the past (there is really no difference between the two anyway). You can only sit with what you have, and not what you want or might have had. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have felt all Oneness and no distinction or difference. No me, or you. But that was a long time ago. It faded.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it was a long time ago. Is it anything more than a memory? An imagining? You may think it is more, because it is something meaningful to you. But you cannot have that.

You can have &lt;strong&gt;THIS&lt;/strong&gt;, but not that. Do you see the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uzma and Davidya,</p>
<p>Nice conversation you are having&#8230;I won&#8217;t intrude.</p>
<p>I will add that this &#8216;thing&#8217; has nothing to do with what you want or what you may have had in the past (there is really no difference between the two anyway). You can only sit with what you have, and not what you want or might have had. </p>
<blockquote><p>I have felt all Oneness and no distinction or difference. No me, or you. But that was a long time ago. It faded.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it was a long time ago. Is it anything more than a memory? An imagining? You may think it is more, because it is something meaningful to you. But you cannot have that.</p>
<p>You can have <strong>THIS</strong>, but not that. Do you see the difference?</p>
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