Ah, I see what you mean. Effort is apparently needed on that level of doing. That is right. I question the need for that level of doing, and thereby also question if the answer can be found on the outside.

I say outside because even if it seems to be inner work, it is usually designed from something given to you by someone else. “Take my method and you will find yourself.” That sort of thing. Again, I am not saying right or wrong. Just questioning the whole thing.

But I guess one could say, even in inquiry, one is doing something, right?

To ‘Where is the Door?’ I would have to say “where is the door not?’ It is all a door. I fully agree there is no destination as a place nor end to a journey that never began. The ‘path’ is a progression of openings to what already is. As what is is infinite, there is no arrival. One seems to step through a door, only to find a yet bigger space.

Will anyone be left to enjoy? Yes, because what is lost remains. It cannot be lost or found. Vasishta says “One cannot say [apparent form] is real, or unreal, but one can only say that their substratum (consciousness) alone is real.”

Effort is apparently needed when awareness is on the level of doing. When one steps beyond doing, it is no longer needed, unless one wishes to achieve on the level of action.

I am not saying it is, or is not, any or all of these things. If one is there, the words lose their meaning.

To understand that the finger is not the moon and neither is the moon the moon it seems many will require a “path’ to what is NOT what it IS.

But is it true? Is a path required at all? We assume this to be the case; that it seems to be this way. But I am not interested in the way things seem.

I am not saying it is or it isn’t. But one needs to see this for themselves, either way.

Truth comes when truth comes. Isn’t that the only certainty?

Well, there is also death and taxes.

There are countless teachers, systems, paths, etc., as you have pointed out. But look at this mess humanity is in. If these things couldn’t free us 10,000 years ago, will they do so now?

So I start with this; the system is broken. The old methods and systems are not the answer. And that includes any method of my own creation.

So where does that leave one? Where does one begin? How is it possible to move from there? Get to it!

I talk about the only teacher I ever had in a podcast on this post. Not really a teacher, per se, but what happened turned out to be a defining moment (others have said).

If I say, “Yes, K was right, and truth is a pathless land,” then I am just fooling myself. If I believe it to be true, all is lost. In order to find out, one needs to cast aside any notion of what is believed to be there.

It is all available now. No one can give it to you.

To understand that the finger is not the moon and neither is the moon the moon it seems many will require a “path’ to what is NOT what it IS.

And since there are so many paths and so many teachers pointing to paths, it really doesn’t matter what path or teacher is chosen since all will get you to what is what is NOT so that you can know what is. Truth comes when truth comes. Isn’t that the only certainty?

I like your method of provoking thought. Who was your teacher and what is your path or is your truth “a pathless land”?

Thanks,
mike S